This e-mail interview was conducted in May, 2002

Calsaga: Tell us a little about your musical beginnings. Was your family musical? When did you begin to show an interest in music? Were you formally trained?

Billy: Neither of my parents were musicians nor were they in the music business or show business in general. However, both had a love of music and could carry a tune (on rare occasion they would sing a song [just for fun] and I could hear that they were in pitch). On my fathers’ side, his sister, Martha, sang in her church choir (as a mature woman). There was a paternal male relative in Germany (where the Hinsche family originates) who was involved in the music publishing end of the business, though I never knew him.

My father got me and my sister, Annie, interested in music at a very early age. We were both taught piano by a private instructor at our home in Manila, in the Philippines. I was 3 and Annie was 5 when we started these piano lessons. My dad was way ahead of his time --- he recorded us too! I have both reel-to-reel audiotapes and 78 rpm records of us singing and playing piano, individually. Mostly nursery rhymes. Annie and I subsequently continued private piano instruction at our home in Beverly Hills by a series of tutors, and when I became infatuated with the violin I took lessons at school (Beverly Hills Catholic/Good Shepherd) being instructed by one of the nuns (Sisters of the Holy Cross).

Calsaga: I know you play both keyboards and guitar. Are there any other instruments you play? What instrument do you prefer to play?

Billy: Learned violin at age 7 (purely my own decision and desire), ukulele at age 9 (during a family vacation in Honolulu, Hawaii, I took private lessons from a beautiful young Hawaiian girl. No doubt, this gave me the basic understanding [of strumming and the formation of simple chords] I needed when I decided to learn how to play the guitar), harmonica at age 12 (self-taught). Picking between piano and guitar is like a “Sophie’s Choice” situation. Though piano is my first instrument, I love them both equally; however, I favor the guitar “onstage”, ‘cause I am not anchored to anything like I am playing the piano. In my case, since the acoustic piano was the basis for my understanding of all keyboards, naturally I can also play electric piano, organ, synthesizer, etc. In short, I can play anything with a keyboard; this would also include xylophone/vibraphone (technically considered percussion instruments), since they are merely a truncated (shorter scale), enlarged keyboard-like palette that is struck with mallets/hammers as opposed to fingers. It's basically the same concept. I have always wanted to master the drums, but I just don't have the wherewithal or stamina to sustain a steady, prolonged beat.

Calsaga: You were one third of the group Dino, Desi & Billy. How did you become musically involved with Dino and Desi? How were you discovered?

Billy: I taught my best friend, Dino Martin, how to play a few guitar chords in the mid-sixties, when being in a rock ‘n’ roll band is what every kid dreamed about. We did simple two-part harmony songs like the ones Chad & Jeremy and Peter & Gordon used to do. Did some Beatles songs also. This was all just for fun, really.

Desi and his sister, Lucie Arnaz, enrolled in our grammar school. Lucie was our classmate; Desi was a few years younger. Dino and I heard Desi play drums during a classroom presentation and decided to ask him to join our duo, making us a trio. It’s as simple as that. Once again, just for fun.

We first began rehearsing at Desi’s mother’s (Lucille Ball) house in the playroom, which was separate from the main house. Then, we moved our rehearsals to Dino’s family den which was also the poolroom / projection room. It was a larger space [than at Desi’s] and had a small built-in “riser,” giving us more of a feeling that we were onstage.

From left to right: Billy Hinsche, Desi Arnaz Jr., Dino Martin.

Dino’s mother, Jeanne, heard us rehearsing just about every day after school and on weekends. She decided to make a call to the Martin’s family friend, Frank Sinatra, who was part owner of Reprise Records. An audition was scheduled and we played for him (and Dean Martin) in the Martin’s sunken living room. We performed about 3 songs and were then offered a contract with Reprise by Mr. Sinatra --- much to our surprise, amazement, and delight.

 

Calsaga: How did you become involved with the Beach Boys? When did you join the Beach Boys touring band? Do you remember your first concert with the Beach Boys? How many years did you tour with the Beach Boys?

Billy: Met the Beach Boys (except for Brian, who played the show with the group the next night) on the day of soundcheck at the Hollywood Bowl, on July 2, 1965. Since Dino, Desi & Billy had a current, huge hit single climbing the local and national charts (“I’m a Fool”), we were hired to perform this show, along with many other local (and not so local [Kinks]) acts like Sonny & Cher, the Righteous Brothers, the Byrds, and the Sir Douglas Quintet. Based on our successful reception [by the audience] at this “Summer Spectacular” the Beach Boys immediately included us in three more shows which took us “on the road” for the first time --- Bakersfield, Fresno, and Honolulu, Hawaii (Oahu). We shared the “bill” with opening act, Barbara “Baby, I’m Yours” Lewis. DD&B would always join the BBs onstage for the encore number of “Johnny B. Goode.”

I “sat in” with the Beach Boys on a regular “special guest” basis as early as 1966 or thereabouts. I would travel with Carl on the road, just to hang out and have some fun. Since I was already there, I was invited to play along on a few songs, which eventually grew to incorporate me on a more permanent basis. One of my earliest recollections of one such situation was somewhere in the Midwest with the Spiral Staircase as the opening act; another early memory was with the Buffalo Springfield as the openers, and yet another tour with the Box Tops. My role expanded greatly when Daryl Dragon left the group along with his then-girfriend, Toni Tenille. In essence, I replaced Toni and Daryl, covering the majority of the keyboard (piano / organ) parts. I also inherited Bruce’s falsetto parts, since he was long gone by this time.

The very first (and still the most precious to me) gold record I ever received for work done on a musical project was for the Beach Boys’ [1973] “In Concert” recording. I was offered a “full membership” in the group (to replace Bruce) in 1969, but had to decline much to my dismay, because my folks wanted me to finish my higher education. I “officially” joined the Beach Boys and was put on retainer in 1974, after I graduated from UCLA’s Motion Picture / Television Division.

Left to right: Carl Wilson and Billy Hinsche.

I toured on-and-off with the Beach Boys for the better part of thirty years, performing on the road and in the recording studio during the ‘60s, ‘70s, ‘80s, and ‘90s. The early 1980s was devoted to supporting Carl Wilson’s two solo albums and touring with him and his band along with his songwriting collaborator and singing partner, Myrna Smith. My role was that of playing keyboard (Yamaha electric piano), guitar (Fender Telecaster), and singing background vocals.
Calsaga: Can you share a memory of each of the Beach Boys?

Billy: Re: My ”First Impressions” ---

When I first saw Brian about to “take the stage” at the Hollywood Bowl, I was really impressed with how well-groomed he was. I even noticed that his fingernails were manicured and polished too! I thought that was really “far out” and very cool. Funny, huh? I was also surprised at how tall he was in person. I was only 14 years old, still growing, and shorter than I am today. He literally towered over everyone else in the backstage area of the Bowl, which is quite small in size.

Carl was the first Beach Boy to come over to me and my partners and introduce himself at the Hollywood Bowl soundcheck. What a nice guy. He looked DIRECTLY into my eyes as he extended his hand for me to shake, making me feel very welcome, and like he was looking forward and excited to meet ME!

Dennis was a ball of energy that day, bouncing from Dino to me, and finally to Desi, who he shared an instant kinship with as all drummers do. They began talking that wacky “drummer talk” that no one understands but them! Dennis was tan, fit as a fiddle and great looking - a total stud!

Al introduced himself next. I was way too shy to approach any of the guys on my own. He had a big, toothy grin, firm handshake and was in an excellent mood; he was clearly genuinely happy to meet the three of us. But when their soundcheck began, he was all business --- singing and playing just great, nailing his vocal parts and playing his guitar with such conviction. It was awesome to watch him and Carl share a microphone during their rehearsal.

Mike was as cool as they come; taking his time to make the rounds of introductions, sizing everything and everyone up in a cautious way. Tall, lean, with piercing blue eyes, he was a wisecracking son of a gun! His good-natured sarcasm and kidding helped me to relax a little around him, and I liked that he had such a hip, down-to-earth sense of humor.

Calsaga: Currently, you are involved in so many projects I don't know where to start.

Billy: In case some of your readers don’t already know, I am also a member and Musical Director (MD) for another group called Ricci, Desi & Billy that is the reincarnation of my old group, Dino, Desi & Billy, which had a modicum of success in the mid-‘60s. This project is very near and dear to my heart because I get to perform with two of my oldest and very best friends, Ricci Martin (Dino’s younger brother) and Desi Arnaz, Jr. Members of our All Star Band include even more old friends who also happen to be some of the finest and most talented musicians and singers I have ever worked with (Jeff Foskett, Bobby Figueroa, Craig Copeland, and Wayne Tweed). This band will rock your world!

We are currently rehearsing our “new & improved” show here in Boulder City, NV, where Desi owns the Historic Boulder Theatre in which we will perform two shows this upcoming Friday and Saturday night, May 24 and 25, respectively. We are doing some fresh material and I have written a few new songs to incorporate into our show. We have so much fun and so many laughs that you wouldn’t even believe it. Everyone in this group is so funny and we are constantly making each other laugh, sometimes to the point of tears! I am so lucky to be in this group, because it allows me the opportunity to “front” my very own band (for a change).

Calsaga: You have recently formed a group with Ricci Martin and Desi Arnaz. You have two live CDs available "Live in Vegas" and "Boulder Rocks." Are there any plans for a Ricci, Desi, & Billy studio album?

Billy: Actually, the new CD will be called “Live from Boulder City” and is available now! Visit riccidesibilly.com for details on how to order it. It is a full 13 song CD that was recorded on May 5, 2001 (Cinco de Mayo), at the Historic Boulder Theatre.

For many years now, Desi and I have been talking about putting together a studio CD of unreleased Dino, Desi & Billy material coupled with some new, original songs. Now that we are more active with Ricci Martin, we have to change our approach slightly. I’m sure we’ll get around to actually doing it one of these years! One of the reasons I like the “live” approach to recording is that it is done in one day, thereby eliminating the need for a prolonged studio recording session schedule that can take weeks or months to complete a project.

Frankly, I think we have a lot of guts putting out “live” recordings. We are proud of our work and our excellent band, and we are not afraid! We never have to go back into a recording studio to “fix” anything, as is the case with most live recordings that people do.

Calsaga: You had a song entitled, "Patria" that was featured in the I Love Lucy 50th Anniversary Special. It has also been submitted by the show's Executive Producer, Fred Rappaport, as a contender for an Emmy Nomination in the Best Original Composition category. What was the inspiration for this song?

Billy: “Patria” can mean “country,” “homeland,” ” freedom,” or even “paradise,” depending on which dictionary you use to define this word. The challenge and inspiration was to write about the concept of never being able to go back to one’s home(land). In this case, that place was represented by the island nation of Cuba, where Desi Arnaz Sr. was born, raised, and eventually forced to flee when the Fidel Castro revolution / government installed itself in that country.

Calsaga: The last two years, you and Jeffrey Foskett have performed together at the Roar Festival in Hokitika, New Zealand. Did this evolve from your performances together at the Carl Wilson Walk Beach Parties? Can you tell us about the Roar Festival?

 

Billy: After the 1999 CWF beach party and concert, Jeff was approached by one of the Kiwis in attendance. He was keen on having Jeff come to New Zealand to perform as a solo act. Jeff thought it wise to bring me along with my cache of custom written Beach Boys music charts since we had to break in a band to back us up and we only had three days to accomplish this. This decision paid off and we really rocked at the show. 
The Roar Festival is all about people congregating in this small, remote beach city on the South Island of NZ called Hokitika to drink beer and sample exotic foods like “hoo-hoo grubs” (worms that taste just like peanut butter, so I am told), “white bait patties” (very small fish which are ground to a fine texture and deep fried --- supposed to be scrumptious, though I wouldn’t know!) and the like. Most residents of NZ, I am told, consider Hokitika to be as remote of a spot as you can ever go to and most Kiwis have never even been there! Personally, I dig the place and the people who live there --- real simple folks with simple needs who live a simple life near the beach.

This year we upped the ante by bringing our old buddy Robert Lamm with us, as well as our brand new friend, Andy Kim, who wrote and sang several million selling songs like “Sugar, Sugar,” “Rock Me Gently,” and “How’d We Ever Get this Way.”

Jeff and I did so well for the local promoters that we were instantly invited back again for next year’s event.

Calsaga: This year you and Jeff Foskett also performed in Germany and the UK. What were these performances like; a mixture of your songs and Jeff's, Beach Boys songs, were these acoustic performances, etc?

Billy: Unlike the NZ shows (we played eleven different venues while we were there), Jeff and I did an unplugged, acoustic show. It wasn’t “unplugged” in the literal sense, since Jeff played an electric guitar (that had to be “plugged in” to an amp) and I played an electric piano along with an acoustic guitar (both having to be plugged in “directly” into the sound system to be heard).

In Germany, the show began with both of us onstage doing a song which we both could sing and that was familiar to the audience. We chose “Kokomo.” Jeff on guitar, me on piano. Unlike what we are both accustomed to, we were both sitting down in chairs for this segment. After this introductory song, I did about five original compositions written over many, many years, telling our good German audience a little bit about each song before I began. The response from the crowd after each song was absolutely unbelievable. They would not stop clapping! I don’t think I have ever performed for such an enthusiastic audience in my life!

The same held true during Jeff’s abbreviated set that began with “Guess I’m Dumb” which, of course, was written by Brian Wilson and recorded by Glen Campbell. Jeff thought it would be cool to start his segment with a rarity. He fielded requests from the uninhibited crowd and after each song was played he was rewarded with thunderous and sincere applause.

Then I joined Jeff onstage for more Beach Boy related song requests, many of which were quite obscure and seldom played by anyone. We asked the audience to try and “stump the band” which doesn’t translate very well into a German way of thinking since, we were told prior to the show, that Germans are far too polite to do something as rude as this!

The two-hour set concluded with “Forever” during which I played a 12 string Ovation acoustic guitar, provided by one of the German fan club members. I asked my beautiful German protégé, Sarah Gries, to join us for this final song since she had learned how to play it by studying and practicing it based on my instructional piano video, “Play Songs of the Beach Boys.”

All in all, this show was about as fantastic as one could hope for, in spite of a slight language barrier.

The UK show in Chingford, East London, was our very last appearance of our four-week tour and brought to an end what Jeff and I had been calling our “Abundance Tour.” It wasn’t that we made a lot of money, ‘cause we didn’t; but we had more than enough of everything along the way --- good weather, good food, good hotels, good crowds, good humor, and most of all, a really good time.

This show differed slightly from the Germany show insofar as it began with the playing (on loudspeakers) of a brand new song that I had written and recorded with Desi called “Under a Beach Boy Moon.” After the song’s conclusion, we walked to the front of the hall and began by my saying how flattered and fortunate we both felt that so many people had come to see us perform. Jeff sat onstage while I was at ground level playing a very nice baby grand piano that was a permanent resident of the hall. After banging out a few originals (“Lady Love,” “Let’s Build a World,” “This Old Town,” and “Under a Beach Boy Moon,”) I turned the show over to Jeff who proceeded to regale the crowd with a few originals of his own as well as playing some of the requests being hurled at him from some of the attendees. I was now onstage with him and accompanied him (on a small keyboard) during some of the songs I was familiar with such as “Know One Knows But You,” one of my personal favorites of his.

We had promised (in the pre-show ads) that we would conduct a music symposium of sorts and teach everyone the proper vocal and piano parts to some popular Beach Boys songs. We invited those who cared to, to come onstage with us to sing and play. There was a bit of a mad dash to the stage on the part of those willing to participate in this segment of the show. After Jeff dissected and explained the individual vocal parts we all sang “Surfer Girl,” “Don’t Worry Baby,” “Sail On Sailor,” and a few more. There were a few gents who strapped on acoustic guitars and strummed along too. This portion of the show proved to be a smashing big hit with everyone. Then we took a thirty-minute intermission so that everyone (especially me!) could use the washroom, etc., prior to the second half of our show.

We began the next half of the show with a brief question and answer session before I did a reading of one of the chapters from my upcoming book, “I Got Around” (Volume 1). I knew that the story contained some volatile material so I cautioned the audience that there would be “adult content” in the reading and that they should now consider themselves fairly forewarned --- not a single person left the auditorium. I also asked for a degree of confidentiality regarding this reading and I pointed out that by revealing the details and "twist ending" of the story to those people or friends not in the audience, it would be akin to giving away the plot to a movie that your friend had yet to see; further adding that it would lose a lot in the verbal translation and it just wouldn't be the same or capture exactly what I had written or intended. This request was met with applause, which I interpreted to mean that everyone respected my gentle admonition. The reading went a lot longer than I had anticipated and lasted an entire hour, probably because I took my time and articulated every word so that the meaning of each sentence, paragraph, and story in general was not lost.

The chapter title was “From Maharishi to Manson” and it’s about some of the experiences I had with both of them (within a 24 hour period of time) as seen through the eyes of a slightly insecure and awkward seventeen year old kid (me) who was just trying to fit into the very adult world I encountered, with particular emphasis on my relationship with Denny.

Jeff had brought along some very rare items which he offered to auction for the benefit of the Carl Wilson Foundation: an autographed (by Brian) itinerary from his recent tour of Japan with a laminated pass included, an autographed (by Brian) handwritten music chart of “California Feeling,” and a few other items. Jeff surprised me by producing a plain, yellow, paper restaurant napkin on which I had drawn a “blueprint” of Brian’s Laurel Way house, which is where “Pet Sounds” was created and in which his sandbox was located as well as his tent. I had drawn it for him while we were bored and waiting for our waitress to bring us the food we had ordered while dining at an Indian restaurant in a small town just outside of Auckland, NZ. To my amazement, British researcher and author, Kingsley Abbott, bought it for about 45 English pounds, or the equivalent of roughly $70 US dollars! One of the Beach Boys Britain administrators, Andrew G. Doe, literally passed his big, black hat around for a spontaneous collection of money. The Brits were very generous and raised almost a thousand dollars for the CWF during this jolly good auction.

After the auction, Jeff and I concluded the show with a group singalong of “God Only Knows” with the entire audience lifting their voices to sing this popular and familiar song. The event turned out to be a smashing success and we were invited back again by our hosts, Beach Boys Britain, for their next annual get-together.

Calsaga: Can you tell us a little about your autobiography? Have you found a publisher?

Billy: It’s not an autobiography in the purest form though it is autobiographical in nature. It is a series of nonfiction short stories that are about certain events, people, and highlights in my personal life and professional career that I hope the reader finds interesting. They won’t be in chronological order, but in the order I have written them. Hopefully, the reader will see a positive progression in my writing style which means it will only get better the more I write and the more they read. It won’t be a “tell all” book, but more of a “tell some” book. Since the process of writing is so time consuming, I’ve decided to break the stories up into volumes, to give me a chance not only to write, but to do all the other things in my life as well. As you know, I’ve got a lot of different projects going on most of the time. I would have to devote at least a year of story writing in order to complete, let’s say, 12 chapters. Volume One will consist of five of these short stories and I plan to release it in July, through a friend’s publishing company called Parlor Grand Publishing. The book will be made available on Amazon.com and will include some never-before-seen photographs.

Calsaga: You are also in "Al Jardine's Good Vibrations Beach Band." I guess the biggest question would have to be, "Will we see more touring in the near future?" Also, are there any plans for a studio album?

Billy: The group is now officially called “Al Jardine’s All Star Beach Band” and will be doing a number of shows this summer, debuting on Saturday, June 22, at a private party in Sebastopol, CA, and a public show at the New York State Fair in Syracuse, on Saturday, August 24; this configuration will also incorporate band members (and songs) from both the Surfaris and the Ripchords. There aren’t any plans for a studio album that I am aware of.

Calsaga: I've heard you have been involved with some recent recording with Al Jardine. Can you tell us about these projects?

Billy: About a year ago, Al made a connection with the folks who run the P. T. Cruiser car club of America and who were also about to publish a brand new magazine devoted to this Chrysler built car. In fact, I was with Al (he called from his car on the way down to the location and invited me to join him) the day a team of people did the photo shoot on the beach next to the pier in Oceanside, CA, (which is where I live) for the very first issue of their P. T. Cruiser magazine with Al on the cover, standing next to their incredibly beautiful “Woodie” model.

He got the notion to write a song about the car and asked his band members (myself, Bobby Figueroa, Ed Carter, Richie Cannata, Craig Copeland, and Tom Jacob) to come to his Red Barn Studio (on his property in Big Sur, CA.) to record it the day after we had done a private show at a residence in Pebble Beach, CA (only about 50 miles from his home) the night before. He had already written most of the lyrics and had a basic idea for the chord progressions and structure of the song. We played around with it until we found an arrangement that felt right. “P. T. Cruiser” is an uptempo rocker reminiscent of many of the early Beach Boys’ car songs. We debuted it recently at the Wayne Newton Theater, which is in the Stardust Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, NV, during a weekend convention of P. T. Cruiser owners. It got a standing ovation!

Calsaga: You are also a member of David Marks' Beach Party! band. How did this group come about?

Billy: A few years ago, I got a call from David completely “out of the blue.” Simply put, he asked me if I would be interested in playing in a band with him along with some of the other guys that had worked with the Beach Boys over the years. Though I had briefly met David a few times over the years when he "sat in" with the Beach Boys, I really didn't know him. In spite of this I accepted his offer and was quite flattered and honored that he thought enough of me to include me in his group. Since then, we have done a bunch of shows all over the country and I now consider David to be a good friend.

14. You are very involved with the Carl Wilson Foundation. Can you share any details about this year's events?

Billy: This year’s event is going to be incredible, with a few new elements thrown into the usual mix. For instance, the Walk and Beach Party will be incorporated into Saturday’s schedule (October 5) and will be held at the same location as last year; i.e. at the Santa Monica Palisades and Santa Monica Beach, respectively. We’re trying to decide whether or not to secure a covered “safe space” such as Rusty’s Surf Ranch in the event of rain, which is always a possibility and concern for us.

Depending on the level of interest by the fans, on the morning of Sunday, October 6, there will be a very special “Historical Bus Tour” of locations around Los Angeles (Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Santa Monica) that are of special significance in the Beach Boys’ history.

We have already secured our headliner for this year’s Benefit Concert (evening of Oct. 6) to be held at Royce Hall on the campus of my Alma Mater, UCLA, and have confirmed another major musical group. There are also a number of other Artists being contacted, but I can’t give you that information at this time. Let’s just say that I am very pleased and extremely excited about the way this year’s musical lineup is taking shape.

Calsaga: In conclusion, is there anything you would like to discuss?

Billy: I recorded my very first solo CD on the day that I arrived in New Zealand. It is a live, “unplugged” recording of songs I have written over many years, including tunes that have been recorded by Dino, Desi & Billy, Nelson Riddle, Dean Martin, and Carl Wilson. I also included a song, "Patria," that was recently submitted for possible nomination for a television Emmy Award. I explain the circumstances surrounding the writing of each song in an anecdotal way.

I have spent so many years touring and recording in support of other people’s music that I felt it was about time for me to record a CD of my own. It contains 12 original songs and is called “Bay of Plenty,” named after the place in New Zealand where it was recorded. The first six songs are performed on a Martin acoustic guitar, and the other six are performed on a Roland RD 500 piano. German Artist and friend, Sabine Bohn, did my artwork. I am just putting the final touches on the liner notes and plan to release “Bay of Plenty” by the end of June, available on Amazon.com. I am very proud of this project and I really hope everyone likes it.

Note: "Endless Summer Quarterly will feature an excerpt from Billy's upcoming book,"I Got Around" (Volume 1), in its next issue.  The chapter is titled "The
Great White Hunters" and is about a hunting trip that Dennis took Billy on
when he was just 15.  The story is touching, frightening, and hysterical. 
ESQ has the exclusive on this."

 


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