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This e-mail interview was
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| Calsaga:
Tell us a little about your musical beginnings. Was your
family musical? When did you begin to show an interest
in music? Were you formally trained?
Billy: Neither
of my parents were musicians nor were they in the music
business or show business in general. However, both had
a love of music and could carry a tune (on rare occasion
they would sing a song [just for fun] and I could hear
that they were in pitch). On my fathers’ side, his
sister, Martha, sang in her church choir (as a mature
woman). There was a paternal male relative in Germany
(where the Hinsche family originates) who was involved
in the music publishing end of the business, though I
never knew him.
My father got me
and my sister, Annie, interested in music at a very
early age. We were both taught piano by a private
instructor at our home in Manila, in the Philippines. I
was 3 and Annie was 5 when we started these piano
lessons. My dad was way ahead of his time --- he
recorded us too! I have both reel-to-reel audiotapes and
78 rpm records of us singing and playing piano,
individually. Mostly nursery rhymes. Annie and I
subsequently continued private piano instruction at our
home in Beverly Hills by a series of tutors, and when I
became infatuated with the violin I took lessons at
school (Beverly Hills Catholic/Good Shepherd) being
instructed by one of the nuns (Sisters of the Holy
Cross).
Calsaga: I
know you play both keyboards and guitar. Are there any
other instruments you play? What instrument do you
prefer to play?
Billy: Learned
violin at age 7 (purely my own decision and desire),
ukulele at age 9 (during a family vacation in Honolulu,
Hawaii, I took private lessons from a beautiful young
Hawaiian girl. No doubt, this gave me the basic
understanding [of strumming and the formation of simple
chords] I needed when I decided to learn how to play the
guitar), harmonica at age 12 (self-taught). Picking
between piano and guitar is like a “Sophie’s Choice”
situation. Though piano is my first instrument, I love
them both equally; however, I favor the guitar “onstage”,
‘cause I am not anchored to anything like I am playing
the piano. In my case, since the acoustic piano was the
basis for my understanding of all keyboards, naturally I
can also play electric piano, organ, synthesizer, etc.
In short, I can play anything with a keyboard; this
would also include xylophone/vibraphone (technically
considered percussion instruments), since they are
merely a truncated (shorter scale), enlarged
keyboard-like palette that is struck with
mallets/hammers as opposed to fingers. It's basically
the same concept. I have always wanted to master the
drums, but I just don't have the wherewithal or stamina
to sustain a steady, prolonged beat. |
| Calsaga:
You were one third of the group Dino, Desi & Billy.
How did you become musically involved with Dino and Desi?
How were you discovered?
Billy: I
taught my best friend, Dino Martin, how to play a few
guitar chords in the mid-sixties, when being in a rock
‘n’ roll band is what every kid dreamed about. We
did simple two-part harmony songs like the ones Chad
& Jeremy and Peter & Gordon used to do. Did some
Beatles songs also. This was all just for fun, really.
Desi and his
sister, Lucie Arnaz, enrolled in our grammar school. Lucie was our
classmate; Desi was a few years younger. Dino and I
heard Desi play drums during a classroom presentation
and decided to ask him to join our duo, making us a
trio. It’s as simple as that. Once again, just for
fun.
We first began
rehearsing at Desi’s mother’s (Lucille Ball) house in the playroom,
which was separate from the main house. Then, we moved
our rehearsals to Dino’s family den which was also the
poolroom / projection room. It was a larger space [than
at Desi’s] and had a small built-in “riser,”
giving us more of a feeling that we were onstage. |
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From
left to right: Billy Hinsche, Desi Arnaz Jr.,
Dino Martin. |
Dino’s
mother, Jeanne, heard us rehearsing just about
every day after school and on weekends. She
decided to make a call to the Martin’s family
friend, Frank Sinatra, who was part owner of
Reprise Records. An audition was scheduled and
we played for him (and Dean Martin) in the
Martin’s sunken living room. We performed
about 3 songs and were then offered a contract
with Reprise by Mr. Sinatra --- much to our
surprise, amazement, and delight.
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| Calsaga:
How
did you become involved with the Beach Boys? When did
you join the Beach Boys touring band? Do you remember
your first concert with the Beach Boys? How many years
did you tour with the Beach Boys?
Billy: Met the Beach Boys (except for Brian, who played the show with the group the
next night) on the day of soundcheck at the Hollywood Bowl, on July 2, 1965.
Since Dino, Desi & Billy had a current, huge hit single climbing the local
and national charts (“I’m a Fool”), we were hired to perform this show,
along with many other local (and not so local [Kinks]) acts like Sonny &
Cher, the Righteous Brothers, the Byrds, and the Sir Douglas Quintet. Based on
our successful reception [by the audience] at this “Summer Spectacular” the
Beach Boys immediately included us in three more shows which took us “on the
road” for the first time --- Bakersfield, Fresno, and Honolulu, Hawaii (Oahu).
We shared the “bill” with opening act, Barbara “Baby, I’m Yours”
Lewis. DD&B would always join the BBs onstage for the encore number of “Johnny
B. Goode.”
I “sat in” with the Beach Boys on a regular “special guest” basis as
early as 1966 or thereabouts. I would travel with Carl on the road, just to hang
out and have some fun. Since I was already there, I was invited to play along on
a few songs, which eventually grew to incorporate me on a more permanent basis.
One of my earliest recollections of one such situation was somewhere in the
Midwest with the Spiral Staircase as the opening act; another early memory was
with the Buffalo Springfield as the openers, and yet another tour with the Box Tops.
My role expanded greatly when Daryl Dragon left the group along with his then-girfriend,
Toni Tenille. In essence, I replaced Toni and Daryl, covering the majority of
the keyboard (piano / organ) parts. I also inherited Bruce’s falsetto parts,
since he was long gone by this time.
The very first (and still the most precious to me) gold record I ever
received for work done on a musical project was for the Beach Boys’ [1973] “In
Concert” recording. I was offered a “full membership” in the group (to
replace Bruce) in 1969, but had to decline much to my dismay, because my folks
wanted me to finish my higher education. I “officially” joined the Beach
Boys and was put on retainer in 1974, after I graduated from UCLA’s Motion
Picture / Television Division.
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Left
to right: Carl Wilson and Billy Hinsche. |
I toured on-and-off with the Beach Boys for the better part of thirty years,
performing on the road and in the recording studio during the ‘60s, ‘70s,
‘80s, and ‘90s. The early 1980s was devoted to supporting Carl Wilson’s
two solo albums and touring with him and his band along with his songwriting
collaborator and singing partner, Myrna Smith. My role was that of playing
keyboard (Yamaha electric piano), guitar (Fender Telecaster), and singing
background vocals. |
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| Calsaga:
Can you share a memory of each of the Beach Boys?
Billy:
Re: My ”First Impressions” ---
When I first saw Brian about to “take the stage” at the Hollywood Bowl, I
was really impressed with how well-groomed he was. I even noticed that his
fingernails were manicured and polished too! I thought that was really “far
out” and very cool. Funny, huh? I was also surprised at how tall he was in
person. I was only 14 years old, still growing, and shorter than I am today. He
literally towered over everyone else in the backstage area of the Bowl, which is
quite small in size.
Carl was the first Beach Boy to come over to me and my partners and introduce
himself at the Hollywood Bowl soundcheck. What a nice guy. He looked DIRECTLY
into my eyes as he extended his hand for me to shake, making me feel very
welcome, and like he was looking forward and excited to meet ME!
Dennis was a ball of energy that day, bouncing from Dino to me, and finally
to Desi, who he shared an instant kinship with as all drummers do. They began
talking that wacky “drummer talk” that no one understands but them! Dennis
was tan, fit as a fiddle and great looking - a total stud!
Al introduced himself next. I was way too shy to approach any of the guys on
my own. He had a big, toothy grin, firm handshake and was in an excellent mood;
he was clearly genuinely happy to meet the three of us. But when their
soundcheck began, he was all business --- singing and playing just great,
nailing his vocal parts and playing his guitar with such conviction. It was
awesome to watch him and Carl share a microphone during their rehearsal.
Mike was as cool as they come; taking his time to make the rounds of
introductions, sizing everything and everyone up in a cautious way. Tall, lean,
with piercing blue eyes, he was a wisecracking son of a gun! His good-natured
sarcasm and kidding helped me to relax a little around him, and I liked that he
had such a hip, down-to-earth sense of humor.
Calsaga: Currently, you are involved in so many projects I don't know where to start.
Billy: In case some of your readers don’t already know, I am also a member and
Musical Director (MD) for another group called Ricci, Desi & Billy that is
the reincarnation of my old group, Dino, Desi & Billy, which had a modicum
of success in the mid-‘60s. This project is very near and dear to my heart
because I get to perform with two of my oldest and very best friends, Ricci
Martin (Dino’s younger brother) and Desi Arnaz, Jr. Members of our All Star
Band include even more old friends who also happen to be some of the finest and
most talented musicians and singers I have ever worked with (Jeff Foskett, Bobby
Figueroa, Craig Copeland, and Wayne Tweed). This band will rock your world!
We are currently rehearsing our “new & improved” show here in Boulder
City, NV, where Desi owns the Historic Boulder Theatre in which we will perform
two shows this upcoming Friday and Saturday night, May 24 and 25, respectively.
We are doing some fresh material and I have written a few new songs to
incorporate into our show. We have so much fun and so many laughs that you
wouldn’t even believe it. Everyone in this group is so funny and we are
constantly making each other laugh, sometimes to the point of tears! I am so
lucky to be in this group, because it allows me the opportunity to “front”
my very own band (for a change).
Calsaga: You have recently formed a group with Ricci Martin and Desi
Arnaz. You
have two live CDs available "Live in Vegas" and "Boulder
Rocks." Are there any plans for a Ricci, Desi, & Billy studio album?
Billy: Actually, the new CD will be called “Live from Boulder City” and is
available now! Visit riccidesibilly.com for details on how to order it. It is a
full 13 song CD that was recorded on May 5, 2001 (Cinco de Mayo), at the
Historic Boulder
Theatre.
For many years now, Desi and I have been talking about putting together a
studio CD of unreleased Dino, Desi & Billy material coupled with some new,
original songs. Now that we are more active with Ricci Martin, we have to change
our approach slightly. I’m sure we’ll get around to actually doing it one of
these years! One of the reasons I like the “live” approach to recording is
that it is done in one day, thereby eliminating the need for a prolonged studio
recording session schedule that can take weeks or months to complete a project.
Frankly, I think we have a lot of guts putting out “live” recordings. We
are proud of our work and our excellent band, and we are not afraid! We never
have to go back into a recording studio to “fix” anything, as is the case
with most live recordings that people do.
Calsaga: You had a song entitled, "Patria" that was featured in the I
Love Lucy 50th Anniversary Special. It has also been submitted by the show's
Executive Producer, Fred Rappaport, as a contender for an Emmy Nomination in the
Best Original Composition category. What was the inspiration for this song?
Billy: “Patria” can mean “country,” “homeland,” ” freedom,” or even
“paradise,” depending on which dictionary you use to define this word. The
challenge and inspiration was to write about the concept of never being able to
go back to one’s home(land). In this case, that place was represented by the
island nation of Cuba, where Desi Arnaz Sr. was born, raised, and eventually
forced to flee when the Fidel Castro revolution / government installed itself in
that country.
Calsaga: The last two years, you and Jeffrey Foskett have performed together at the
Roar Festival in Hokitika, New Zealand. Did this evolve from your performances
together at the Carl Wilson Walk Beach Parties? Can you tell us about the Roar
Festival?
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After the 1999 CWF beach party and concert, Jeff was approached by one of the
Kiwis in attendance. He was keen on having Jeff come to New Zealand to perform
as a solo act. Jeff thought it wise to bring me along with my cache of custom
written Beach Boys music charts since we had to break in a band to back us up
and we only had three days to accomplish this. This decision paid off and we
really rocked at the show. |
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| The Roar Festival is all about people congregating in
this small, remote beach city on the South Island of NZ called Hokitika to drink
beer and sample exotic foods like “hoo-hoo grubs” (worms that taste just
like peanut butter, so I am told), “white bait patties” (very small fish
which are ground to a fine texture and deep fried --- supposed to be
scrumptious, though I wouldn’t know!) and the like. Most residents of NZ, I am
told, consider Hokitika to be as remote of a spot as you can ever go to and most
Kiwis have never even been there! Personally, I dig the place and the people who
live there --- real simple folks with simple needs who live a simple life near
the beach.
This year we upped the ante by bringing our old buddy Robert Lamm with us, as
well as our brand new friend, Andy Kim, who wrote and sang several million
selling songs like “Sugar, Sugar,” “Rock Me Gently,” and “How’d We
Ever Get this Way.”
Jeff and I did so well for the local promoters that we were instantly invited
back again for next year’s event.
Calsaga: This year you and Jeff Foskett also performed in Germany and the UK. What
were these performances like; a mixture of your songs and Jeff's, Beach Boys
songs, were these acoustic performances, etc?
Billy: Unlike the NZ shows (we played eleven different venues while we were there),
Jeff and I did an unplugged, acoustic show. It wasn’t “unplugged” in the
literal sense, since Jeff played an electric guitar (that had to be “plugged
in” to an amp) and I played an electric piano along with an acoustic guitar
(both having to be plugged in “directly” into the sound system to be heard).
In Germany, the show began with both of us onstage doing a song which we both
could sing and that was familiar to the audience. We chose “Kokomo.” Jeff on
guitar, me on piano. Unlike what we are both accustomed to, we were both sitting
down in chairs for this segment. After this introductory song, I did about five
original compositions written over many, many years, telling our good German
audience a little bit about each song before I began. The response from the
crowd after each song was absolutely unbelievable. They would not stop clapping!
I don’t think I have ever performed for such an enthusiastic audience in my
life!
The same held true during Jeff’s abbreviated set that began with “Guess I’m
Dumb” which, of course, was written by Brian Wilson and recorded by Glen
Campbell. Jeff thought it would be cool to start his segment with a rarity. He
fielded requests from the uninhibited crowd and after each song was played he
was rewarded with thunderous and sincere applause.
Then I joined Jeff onstage for more Beach Boy related song requests, many of
which were quite obscure and seldom played by anyone. We asked the audience to
try and “stump the band” which doesn’t translate very well into a German
way of thinking since, we were told prior to the show, that Germans are far too
polite to do something as rude as this!
The two-hour set concluded with “Forever” during which I played a 12
string Ovation acoustic guitar, provided by one of the German fan club members.
I asked my beautiful German protégé, Sarah Gries, to join us for this final
song since she had learned how to play it by studying and practicing it based on
my instructional piano video, “Play Songs of the Beach Boys.”
All in all, this show was about as fantastic as one could hope for, in spite
of a slight language barrier.
The UK show in
Chingford, East London, was our very last appearance of our
four-week tour and brought to an end what Jeff and I had been calling our “Abundance
Tour.” It wasn’t that we made a lot of money, ‘cause we didn’t; but we
had more than enough of everything along the way --- good weather, good food,
good hotels, good crowds, good humor, and most of all, a really good time.
This show differed slightly from the Germany show insofar as it began with
the playing (on loudspeakers) of a brand new song that I had written and
recorded with Desi called “Under a Beach Boy Moon.” After the song’s
conclusion, we walked to the front of the hall and began by my saying how
flattered and fortunate we both felt that so many people had come to see us
perform. Jeff sat onstage while I was at ground level playing a very nice baby
grand piano that was a permanent resident of the hall. After banging out a few
originals (“Lady Love,” “Let’s Build a World,” “This Old Town,”
and “Under a Beach Boy Moon,”) I turned the show over to Jeff who proceeded
to regale the crowd with a few originals of his own as well as playing some of
the requests being hurled at him from some of the attendees. I was now onstage
with him and accompanied him (on a small keyboard) during some of the songs I
was familiar with such as “Know One Knows But You,” one of my personal
favorites of his.
We had promised (in the pre-show ads) that we would conduct a music symposium
of sorts and teach everyone the proper vocal and piano parts to some popular
Beach Boys songs. We invited those who cared to, to come onstage with us to sing
and play. There was a bit of a mad dash to the stage on the part of those
willing to participate in this segment of the show. After Jeff dissected and
explained the individual vocal parts we all sang “Surfer Girl,” “Don’t
Worry Baby,” “Sail On Sailor,” and a few more. There were a few gents who
strapped on acoustic guitars and strummed along too. This portion of the show
proved to be a smashing big hit with everyone. Then we took a thirty-minute
intermission so that everyone (especially me!) could use the washroom, etc.,
prior to the second half of our show.
We began the next half of the show with a brief question and answer session
before I did a reading of one of the chapters from my upcoming book, “I Got
Around” (Volume 1). I knew that the story contained some volatile material so
I cautioned the audience that there would be “adult content” in the reading
and that they should now consider themselves fairly forewarned --- not a single
person left the auditorium. I also asked for a degree of confidentiality
regarding this reading and I pointed out that by
revealing the details and "twist ending" of
the story to those people or friends not in the
audience, it would be akin to giving away the plot to a
movie that your friend had yet to see; further adding
that it would lose a lot in the verbal translation and
it just wouldn't be the same or capture exactly
what I had written or intended. This request was met
with applause, which I interpreted to mean that everyone
respected my gentle admonition. The reading went a lot longer than I had anticipated
and lasted an entire hour, probably because I took my time and articulated every
word so that the meaning of each sentence, paragraph, and story in general was
not lost.
The chapter title was “From Maharishi to Manson” and it’s about some of
the experiences I had with both of them (within a 24 hour period of time) as
seen through the eyes of a slightly insecure and awkward seventeen year old kid
(me) who was just trying to fit into the very adult world I encountered, with
particular emphasis on my relationship with Denny.
Jeff had brought along some very rare items which he offered to auction for
the benefit of the Carl Wilson Foundation: an autographed (by Brian) itinerary
from his recent tour of Japan with a laminated pass included, an autographed (by
Brian) handwritten music chart of “California Feeling,” and a few other
items. Jeff surprised me by producing a plain, yellow, paper restaurant napkin
on which I had drawn a “blueprint” of Brian’s Laurel Way house, which is
where “Pet Sounds” was created and in which his sandbox was located as well
as his tent. I had drawn it for him while we were bored and waiting for our
waitress to bring us the food we had ordered while dining at an Indian
restaurant in a small town just outside of Auckland, NZ. To my amazement,
British researcher and author, Kingsley Abbott, bought it for about 45 English
pounds, or the equivalent of roughly $70 US dollars! One of the Beach Boys
Britain administrators, Andrew G. Doe, literally passed his big, black hat
around for a spontaneous collection of money. The Brits were very generous and
raised almost a thousand dollars for the CWF during this jolly good auction.
After the auction, Jeff and I concluded the show with a group singalong of
“God Only Knows” with the entire audience lifting their voices to sing this
popular and familiar song. The event turned out to be a smashing success and we
were invited back again by our hosts, Beach Boys Britain, for their next annual
get-together.
Calsaga: Can you tell us a little about your autobiography? Have you found a
publisher?
Billy: It’s not an autobiography in the purest form though it is autobiographical
in nature. It is a series of nonfiction short stories that are about certain
events, people, and highlights in my personal life and professional career that
I hope the reader finds interesting. They won’t be in chronological order, but
in the order I have written them. Hopefully, the reader will see a positive
progression in my writing style which means it will only get better the more I
write and the more they read. It won’t be a “tell all” book, but more of a
“tell some” book. Since the process of writing is so time consuming, I’ve
decided to break the stories up into volumes, to give me a chance not only to
write, but to do all the other things in my life as well. As you know, I’ve
got a lot of different projects going on most of the time. I would have to
devote at least a year of story writing in order to complete, let’s say, 12
chapters. Volume One will consist of five of these short stories and I plan to
release it in July, through a friend’s publishing company called Parlor Grand
Publishing. The book will be made available on Amazon.com and will include some
never-before-seen photographs.
Calsaga: You are also in "Al Jardine's Good Vibrations Beach Band." I
guess the biggest question would have to be, "Will we see more touring in
the near future?" Also, are there any plans for a studio album?
Billy: The group is now officially called “Al Jardine’s All Star Beach Band”
and will be doing a number of shows this summer, debuting on Saturday, June 22,
at a private party in Sebastopol, CA, and a public show at the New York State
Fair in Syracuse, on Saturday, August 24; this configuration will also incorporate
band members (and songs) from both the Surfaris and the Ripchords. There aren’t
any plans for a studio album that I am aware of.
Calsaga: I've heard you have been involved with some recent recording with Al
Jardine. Can you tell us about these projects?
Billy: About a year ago, Al made a connection with the folks who run the P. T.
Cruiser car club of America and who were also about to publish a brand new
magazine devoted to this Chrysler built car. In fact, I was with Al (he called
from his car on the way down to the location and invited me to join him) the day
a team of people did the photo shoot on the beach next to the pier in Oceanside,
CA, (which is where I live) for the very first issue of their P. T. Cruiser
magazine with Al on the cover, standing next to their incredibly beautiful “Woodie”
model.
He got the notion to write a song about the car and asked his band members
(myself, Bobby Figueroa, Ed Carter, Richie Cannata, Craig Copeland, and Tom
Jacob) to come to his Red Barn Studio (on his property in Big Sur, CA.) to
record it the day after we had done a private show at a residence in Pebble
Beach, CA (only about 50 miles from his home) the night before. He had already
written most of the lyrics and had a basic idea for the chord progressions and
structure of the song. We played around with it until we found an arrangement
that felt right. “P. T. Cruiser” is an uptempo rocker reminiscent of many of
the early Beach Boys’ car songs. We debuted it recently at the Wayne Newton
Theater, which is in the Stardust Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, NV, during a
weekend convention of P. T. Cruiser owners. It got a standing ovation!
Calsaga: You are also a member of David Marks' Beach Party! band. How did this
group come about?
Billy: A few years ago, I got a call from David completely “out of the blue.”
Simply put, he asked me if I would be interested in playing in a band with him
along with some of the other guys that had worked with the Beach Boys over the
years. Though I had briefly met David a few times over the years when he
"sat in" with the Beach Boys, I really didn't
know him. In spite of this I accepted his offer and was
quite flattered and honored that he thought enough of me to include me in his
group. Since then, we have done a bunch of shows all over the country and I now
consider David to be a good friend.
14. You are very involved with the Carl Wilson Foundation. Can you share any
details about this year's events?
Billy: This year’s event is going to be incredible, with a few new elements thrown
into the usual mix. For instance, the Walk and Beach Party will be incorporated
into Saturday’s schedule (October 5) and will be held at the same location as
last year; i.e. at the Santa Monica Palisades and Santa Monica Beach,
respectively. We’re trying to decide whether or not to secure a covered “safe
space” such as Rusty’s Surf Ranch in the event of rain, which is always a
possibility and concern for us.
Depending on the level of interest by the fans, on the morning of Sunday,
October 6, there will be a very special “Historical Bus Tour” of locations
around Los Angeles (Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Santa Monica) that are of
special significance in the Beach Boys’ history.
We have already secured our headliner for this year’s Benefit Concert
(evening of Oct. 6) to be held at Royce Hall on the campus of my Alma Mater,
UCLA, and have confirmed another major musical group. There are
also a number of other Artists being contacted, but I can’t give you that
information at this time. Let’s just say that I am very pleased and extremely
excited about the way this year’s musical lineup is taking shape.
Calsaga: In conclusion, is there anything you would like to discuss?
Billy:
I recorded my very first solo CD on the day that I arrived in New Zealand. It
is a live, “unplugged” recording of songs I have written over many years,
including tunes that have been recorded by Dino, Desi & Billy, Nelson
Riddle, Dean Martin, and Carl Wilson. I also included a song,
"Patria," that was recently
submitted for possible nomination for a television Emmy Award. I explain the
circumstances surrounding the writing of each song in an anecdotal way.
I have spent so many years touring and recording in support of other people’s
music that I felt it was about time for me to record a CD of my own. It contains
12 original songs and is called “Bay of Plenty,” named after the place in
New Zealand where it was recorded. The first six songs are performed on a Martin
acoustic guitar, and the other six are performed on a Roland RD 500 piano.
German Artist and friend, Sabine Bohn, did my artwork. I am just putting the
final touches on the liner notes and plan to release “Bay of Plenty” by the
end of June, available on Amazon.com. I am very proud of this project and I
really hope everyone likes it.
Note: "Endless Summer Quarterly will
feature an excerpt from Billy's upcoming book,"I Got Around" (Volume
1), in its next issue. The chapter is titled "The
Great White Hunters" and is about a hunting trip that Dennis took Billy on
when he was just 15. The story is touching, frightening, and hysterical.
ESQ has the exclusive on this."
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